1 00:00:03,750 --> 00:00:03,429 all right ryan uh so uh you tweeted to 2 00:00:05,510 --> 00:00:03,760 me 3 00:00:07,510 --> 00:00:05,520 what was it let's see uh you didn't 4 00:00:09,350 --> 00:00:07,520 tweet me you tweeted out 5 00:00:11,350 --> 00:00:09,360 uh some of the clips i've been saying 6 00:00:13,110 --> 00:00:11,360 with marco rubio and john ratcliffe have 7 00:00:14,070 --> 00:00:13,120 a somewhat surreal feel to them that is 8 00:00:17,189 --> 00:00:14,080 coupled with this 9 00:00:18,550 --> 00:00:17,199 180 day impending report it feels like 10 00:00:19,109 --> 00:00:18,560 we're heading towards something really 11 00:00:20,710 --> 00:00:19,119 special 12 00:00:22,310 --> 00:00:20,720 something that will change the world as 13 00:00:24,550 --> 00:00:22,320 we know it 14 00:00:25,750 --> 00:00:24,560 and then i said when a bet and you said 15 00:00:28,390 --> 00:00:25,760 yes 16 00:00:30,710 --> 00:00:28,400 so and i want to emphasize the reason i 17 00:00:33,110 --> 00:00:30,720 put feels in capitalized letters 18 00:00:34,549 --> 00:00:33,120 is to emphasize that i acknowledge that 19 00:00:36,069 --> 00:00:34,559 i can be completely wrong 20 00:00:38,150 --> 00:00:36,079 that it might just be my failing and 21 00:00:42,389 --> 00:00:38,160 maybe maybe i'm a lunatic 22 00:00:46,470 --> 00:00:44,310 but i'm willing to make a bet regardless 23 00:00:49,270 --> 00:00:46,480 because even though i acknowledge 24 00:00:50,869 --> 00:00:49,280 that i could be wrong i i feel confident 25 00:00:52,389 --> 00:00:50,879 enough that 26 00:00:54,630 --> 00:00:52,399 certain parameters could be met where 27 00:00:57,110 --> 00:00:54,640 i'd be willing to wager some some money 28 00:00:58,869 --> 00:00:57,120 okay so i guess the question is uh what 29 00:01:00,950 --> 00:00:58,879 what can we actually bet on here like 30 00:01:02,709 --> 00:01:00,960 we've got the 180 day report coming out 31 00:01:05,109 --> 00:01:02,719 but you said you don't want to 32 00:01:06,710 --> 00:01:05,119 uh bet anything specifically around that 33 00:01:08,390 --> 00:01:06,720 because it's a bit 34 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:08,400 i guess uncertain what's actually coming 35 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:09,840 out yeah i mean i mean let's let's 36 00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:11,360 look at this from a logical perspective 37 00:01:18,310 --> 00:01:13,920 if you look at the the the 38 00:01:21,749 --> 00:01:18,320 public relations uh like susan goff 39 00:01:23,350 --> 00:01:21,759 she's gone back and forth about elizondo 40 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:23,360 did work for a tippy didn't work for a 41 00:01:27,910 --> 00:01:26,400 tip you a tip studied ufos a tip didn't 42 00:01:28,550 --> 00:01:27,920 study ufos so we're dealing with we're 43 00:01:30,550 --> 00:01:28,560 dealing 44 00:01:31,749 --> 00:01:30,560 from my perspective potentially we're 45 00:01:34,230 --> 00:01:31,759 dealing with 46 00:01:34,870 --> 00:01:34,240 reluctancy to to be transparent on this 47 00:01:36,550 --> 00:01:34,880 issue so 48 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:36,560 that that gives me pause on the other 49 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:39,600 hand i still think the 180 day report 50 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:42,000 is going to contribute to an escalation 51 00:01:46,469 --> 00:01:43,040 that i see 52 00:01:47,510 --> 00:01:46,479 continuing beyond the 180 day report in 53 00:01:48,630 --> 00:01:47,520 other words i don't think this is going 54 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:48,640 to just fizzle out 55 00:01:51,429 --> 00:01:49,920 and it's like well this could go 56 00:01:52,789 --> 00:01:51,439 anywhere i think the escalation is 57 00:01:54,950 --> 00:01:52,799 absolutely going to continue 58 00:01:56,069 --> 00:01:54,960 because i believe that the the ufo 59 00:01:59,190 --> 00:01:56,079 subject 60 00:02:00,709 --> 00:01:59,200 is tangibly real and as a mystery and 61 00:02:03,830 --> 00:02:00,719 that the us government 62 00:02:05,190 --> 00:02:03,840 has smoking gun evidence of the of of 63 00:02:07,670 --> 00:02:05,200 craft that maneuver 64 00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:07,680 in ways that are not known to exist in 65 00:02:10,389 --> 00:02:08,640 any military 66 00:02:11,910 --> 00:02:10,399 inventory in the world so that that that 67 00:02:15,030 --> 00:02:11,920 is my position 68 00:02:16,710 --> 00:02:15,040 right so uh let me just uh go back to 69 00:02:19,270 --> 00:02:16,720 something marco rubio said 70 00:02:19,830 --> 00:02:19,280 he he was asked uh you're on the intel 71 00:02:21,270 --> 00:02:19,840 committee 72 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:21,280 uh they don't even tell you what's going 73 00:02:24,869 --> 00:02:23,520 on and he replied well i think they tell 74 00:02:26,309 --> 00:02:24,879 us what's going on i mean the stuff 75 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:26,319 flying over the top of our military 76 00:02:28,630 --> 00:02:27,840 installations and they don't know who's 77 00:02:29,990 --> 00:02:28,640 flying it 78 00:02:32,550 --> 00:02:30,000 they don't know what it is so that's a 79 00:02:33,750 --> 00:02:32,560 problem we need to find out if we can 80 00:02:35,750 --> 00:02:33,760 which doesn't really suggest that they 81 00:02:37,830 --> 00:02:35,760 actually have any any evidence 82 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:37,840 or do you think that this is evidence 83 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:40,560 that is being hidden from marco rubio 84 00:02:44,630 --> 00:02:43,040 and if so why would we get it in this 85 00:02:46,390 --> 00:02:44,640 report or after this report 86 00:02:48,150 --> 00:02:46,400 no i think marco rubio is just being 87 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:48,160 careful with his words because he 88 00:02:51,670 --> 00:02:49,680 he and i know this sounds this is 89 00:02:53,350 --> 00:02:51,680 probably what you would expect a ufo not 90 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:53,360 like me to say but i think he's being 91 00:02:56,630 --> 00:02:54,959 careful with his words because he 92 00:03:00,710 --> 00:02:56,640 realizes 93 00:03:03,190 --> 00:03:00,720 thing and 94 00:03:04,630 --> 00:03:03,200 and he doesn't want to be too extreme in 95 00:03:08,070 --> 00:03:04,640 how he words anything 96 00:03:09,430 --> 00:03:08,080 which is why he's very open to 97 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:09,440 to it being well maybe there's a 98 00:03:13,910 --> 00:03:11,599 perfectly logical explanation 99 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:13,920 as if suggesting that maybe there had 100 00:03:18,550 --> 00:03:15,760 this has nothing to do with 101 00:03:20,229 --> 00:03:18,560 extreme technology but i actually 102 00:03:21,670 --> 00:03:20,239 believe he probably doesn't lean in that 103 00:03:24,229 --> 00:03:21,680 direction but he's trying to 104 00:03:24,710 --> 00:03:24,239 be very careful with his wording because 105 00:03:26,710 --> 00:03:24,720 of the 106 00:03:29,030 --> 00:03:26,720 the weight of this issue and and how 107 00:03:32,149 --> 00:03:29,040 it's perceived by the public 108 00:03:35,270 --> 00:03:32,159 so do you think he thinks it's 109 00:03:36,309 --> 00:03:35,280 aliens no i i don't think he thinks it's 110 00:03:38,149 --> 00:03:36,319 aliens but i do 111 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:38,159 think that he has been briefed on it and 112 00:03:43,830 --> 00:03:40,480 that he acknowledges that 113 00:03:46,630 --> 00:03:43,840 even with the full 114 00:03:48,229 --> 00:03:46,640 power of the united states military 115 00:03:49,990 --> 00:03:48,239 whether that's satellites 116 00:03:51,990 --> 00:03:50,000 all of the sensor collecting 117 00:03:52,789 --> 00:03:52,000 infrastructure all over the place even 118 00:03:54,789 --> 00:03:52,799 that 119 00:03:57,030 --> 00:03:54,799 at the full disposal of the united 120 00:03:58,630 --> 00:03:57,040 states military and intelligence 121 00:04:00,470 --> 00:03:58,640 gathering apparatus 122 00:04:02,550 --> 00:04:00,480 they still don't know what it is that 123 00:04:04,789 --> 00:04:02,560 alone is hugely significant 124 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:04,799 so if they don't know what it is even 125 00:04:08,070 --> 00:04:06,560 with everything at their 126 00:04:10,149 --> 00:04:08,080 fingertips then i think it's pretty 127 00:04:12,070 --> 00:04:10,159 clear that he's seen 128 00:04:13,509 --> 00:04:12,080 data suggesting that this is some weird 129 00:04:14,470 --> 00:04:13,519 stuff because if it was because if it 130 00:04:16,870 --> 00:04:14,480 wasn't weird 131 00:04:18,310 --> 00:04:16,880 and it was mundane then he wouldn't be 132 00:04:19,590 --> 00:04:18,320 tiptoeing around it like this and he 133 00:04:20,710 --> 00:04:19,600 would not give credence to 134 00:04:22,710 --> 00:04:20,720 well we don't know what it is and we 135 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:22,720 need to find out what it is and and 136 00:04:26,310 --> 00:04:24,560 he also made another comment he said 137 00:04:27,909 --> 00:04:26,320 well if it didn't end up being 138 00:04:29,909 --> 00:04:27,919 this was a in a previous interview if it 139 00:04:31,270 --> 00:04:29,919 did end up being something really weird 140 00:04:31,909 --> 00:04:31,280 like non-human intelligence that would 141 00:04:34,550 --> 00:04:31,919 probably be 142 00:04:35,270 --> 00:04:34,560 better than if it was technology that is 143 00:04:37,430 --> 00:04:35,280 leapfrog 144 00:04:39,909 --> 00:04:37,440 united states military and owned by the 145 00:04:41,510 --> 00:04:39,919 russians or or or the chinese so yes 146 00:04:43,189 --> 00:04:41,520 i do think he's been briefed i do think 147 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:43,199 he's been given classified briefings 148 00:04:47,990 --> 00:04:45,440 that demonstrate technology that is of 149 00:04:50,310 --> 00:04:48,000 unknown origin that's what i believe yes 150 00:04:51,189 --> 00:04:50,320 so i think like you know what i what i 151 00:04:53,990 --> 00:04:51,199 think about 152 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:54,000 it um yeah i think it's gonna have a 153 00:04:56,790 --> 00:04:55,440 disconnect not a disconnect but like a 154 00:04:57,110 --> 00:04:56,800 disagreement here between me and you in 155 00:05:01,350 --> 00:04:57,120 where 156 00:05:04,230 --> 00:05:01,360 actually knows 157 00:05:06,230 --> 00:05:04,240 i i would argue that they don't know for 158 00:05:09,270 --> 00:05:06,240 sure that there are physical craft 159 00:05:11,189 --> 00:05:09,280 buzzing around over military bases 160 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:11,199 except perhaps for like you know drones 161 00:05:17,029 --> 00:05:11,600 and 162 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:17,039 but i i guess you you feel that there's 163 00:05:23,029 --> 00:05:18,720 a good case to be made that there 164 00:05:25,350 --> 00:05:23,039 are unusual uh unusual crafts like craft 165 00:05:27,350 --> 00:05:25,360 that kind of like go very very fast or 166 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:27,360 have instantaneous acceleration or have 167 00:05:33,270 --> 00:05:29,840 you know one of the the five observables 168 00:05:36,230 --> 00:05:33,280 or exceeding the sound barrier 169 00:05:37,029 --> 00:05:36,240 with without sonic booms or see that in 170 00:05:39,270 --> 00:05:37,039 itself 171 00:05:40,629 --> 00:05:39,280 to me would be an extraordinary thing if 172 00:05:43,430 --> 00:05:40,639 absolutely if that absolutely 173 00:05:45,110 --> 00:05:43,440 that thing is true and yet you feel i 174 00:05:45,909 --> 00:05:45,120 guess that it's that's kind of already 175 00:05:48,950 --> 00:05:45,919 proven 176 00:05:51,670 --> 00:05:48,960 to be the case well now 177 00:05:52,150 --> 00:05:51,680 i now granted i can't prove my position 178 00:05:54,070 --> 00:05:52,160 right 179 00:05:55,270 --> 00:05:54,080 so my position is a matter of belief 180 00:05:56,870 --> 00:05:55,280 it's certainly not a fact 181 00:05:58,390 --> 00:05:56,880 it's definitely not a fact but my belief 182 00:06:00,629 --> 00:05:58,400 based upon my analysis 183 00:06:02,070 --> 00:06:00,639 of the 70-year ufo history and of of the 184 00:06:03,430 --> 00:06:02,080 escalation that's occurred now and of 185 00:06:05,590 --> 00:06:03,440 statements that have come out of 186 00:06:07,430 --> 00:06:05,600 people like john ratcliffe and marco 187 00:06:11,029 --> 00:06:07,440 rubio 188 00:06:13,590 --> 00:06:11,039 and elizondo that yeah i think that 189 00:06:14,150 --> 00:06:13,600 i do think they have the sensor data 190 00:06:17,670 --> 00:06:14,160 that 191 00:06:19,990 --> 00:06:17,680 verifies unknown craft maneuvering in 192 00:06:21,510 --> 00:06:20,000 ways that are not known to exist and i 193 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:21,520 think that they have it 194 00:06:25,270 --> 00:06:23,360 to such an extent that we could call it 195 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:25,280 a smoking gun now they have not released 196 00:06:28,230 --> 00:06:26,560 that information 197 00:06:29,749 --> 00:06:28,240 and whether that's some sort of a 198 00:06:32,950 --> 00:06:29,759 cover-up or it's just 199 00:06:34,629 --> 00:06:32,960 bureaucracy that doesn't want to bring 200 00:06:36,230 --> 00:06:34,639 this to the public or whatever 201 00:06:38,309 --> 00:06:36,240 i do think they have that data somewhere 202 00:06:39,830 --> 00:06:38,319 yes i do i believe that yes 203 00:06:41,510 --> 00:06:39,840 so how could we how would we how could 204 00:06:42,390 --> 00:06:41,520 we formulate a bet around this how could 205 00:06:44,230 --> 00:06:42,400 we 206 00:06:45,830 --> 00:06:44,240 do something that say in the next or the 207 00:06:49,029 --> 00:06:45,840 remainder of this year say 208 00:06:53,029 --> 00:06:49,039 uh that you think will come to pass 209 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:53,039 how could we actually measure the effect 210 00:06:56,790 --> 00:06:55,759 uh yeah well well will the government 211 00:07:00,469 --> 00:06:56,800 say 212 00:07:02,550 --> 00:07:00,479 uh we have evidence 213 00:07:04,790 --> 00:07:02,560 yeah actual conclusive evidence that 214 00:07:06,950 --> 00:07:04,800 physical crafts are flying 215 00:07:09,749 --> 00:07:06,960 around see you use the word conclusive 216 00:07:15,189 --> 00:07:12,950 highly convincing i don't know good 217 00:07:16,309 --> 00:07:15,199 good evidence i mean what let me ask you 218 00:07:17,909 --> 00:07:16,319 this how would they word it 219 00:07:19,270 --> 00:07:17,919 if they weren't if it wasn't conclusive 220 00:07:20,950 --> 00:07:19,280 which i think it is conclusive so if 221 00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:20,960 they said it wasn't if they 222 00:07:23,510 --> 00:07:22,319 if they worded it in a way where you 223 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:23,520 didn't get the impression was conclusive 224 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:24,960 then they're just well i mean they would 225 00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:26,319 say just say reports 226 00:07:38,070 --> 00:07:36,790 or whether they do that post 180 day 227 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:38,080 report i don't know 228 00:07:41,909 --> 00:07:40,400 but i do have i do believe in yes 229 00:07:44,550 --> 00:07:41,919 eventually they're going to 230 00:07:46,070 --> 00:07:44,560 say we have sensor we we have high 231 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:46,080 confidence and or 232 00:07:49,909 --> 00:07:48,240 proof that there are vehicles of unknown 233 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:49,919 origin operating ways that we cannot 234 00:07:52,230 --> 00:07:51,360 replicate yes i do believe that will 235 00:07:54,469 --> 00:07:52,240 take so 236 00:07:55,430 --> 00:07:54,479 eventually it's a a bit open-ended i 237 00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:55,440 mean that could be anytime in the next 238 00:08:00,390 --> 00:07:57,440 hundred years 239 00:08:02,390 --> 00:08:00,400 but i'll tell you this i tell you this 240 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:02,400 the way this is escalating 241 00:08:05,270 --> 00:08:04,160 if it fizzles out like let's say it just 242 00:08:05,909 --> 00:08:05,280 doesn't go any further and it just 243 00:08:07,670 --> 00:08:05,919 fizzles out 244 00:08:09,749 --> 00:08:07,680 nothing of great substance or 245 00:08:11,270 --> 00:08:09,759 significance emerges from this 246 00:08:13,990 --> 00:08:11,280 then i will say hello mick west was 247 00:08:16,390 --> 00:08:14,000 right absolutely five years from now 248 00:08:18,710 --> 00:08:16,400 five years from now it's just nothing of 249 00:08:22,070 --> 00:08:18,720 of of great significance or tangible has 250 00:08:25,430 --> 00:08:22,080 occurred i will i'm gonna be your most 251 00:08:27,909 --> 00:08:25,440 i'm gonna be the most enthusiastic uh 252 00:08:29,430 --> 00:08:27,919 member of of a metabunk that you've ever 253 00:08:30,629 --> 00:08:29,440 seen excellent well that will be on 254 00:08:34,389 --> 00:08:30,639 march the 24th 255 00:08:36,070 --> 00:08:34,399 2026. so 256 00:08:37,990 --> 00:08:36,080 we'll uh we'll regroup i'm sure we'll 257 00:08:38,870 --> 00:08:38,000 regroup a few times before that but uh 258 00:08:41,990 --> 00:08:38,880 yeah 259 00:08:44,070 --> 00:08:42,000 happened i think you know uh we've had 260 00:08:46,790 --> 00:08:44,080 this ufo thing going on for 261 00:08:47,910 --> 00:08:46,800 since the 50s uh and you know to a 262 00:08:50,310 --> 00:08:47,920 certain degree earlier 263 00:08:52,710 --> 00:08:50,320 but like with like investigations and 264 00:08:56,310 --> 00:08:52,720 media attention since the 50s 265 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:56,320 uh and you know it's it's we've not had 266 00:08:58,710 --> 00:08:57,600 any progress and you mean 267 00:08:59,829 --> 00:08:58,720 obviously you think that this is 268 00:09:01,430 --> 00:08:59,839 different but i think yeah it's 269 00:09:03,030 --> 00:09:01,440 different because for example 270 00:09:04,550 --> 00:09:03,040 congress has been given classified 271 00:09:05,670 --> 00:09:04,560 briefings which i think are significant 272 00:09:07,750 --> 00:09:05,680 in other words 273 00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:07,760 data that they are not willing to share 274 00:09:15,829 --> 00:09:14,070 there and also the us government is 275 00:09:19,030 --> 00:09:15,839 known to have said that 276 00:09:20,710 --> 00:09:19,040 in 1969 they they were done studying 277 00:09:22,949 --> 00:09:20,720 ufos with the close of project blue 278 00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:22,959 now conspiracy theorists were like nope 279 00:09:26,870 --> 00:09:24,240 don't believe it 280 00:09:28,389 --> 00:09:26,880 and guess what the us government was not 281 00:09:30,790 --> 00:09:28,399 being forthright because 282 00:09:33,269 --> 00:09:30,800 we we now know that they were studying 283 00:09:35,910 --> 00:09:33,279 ufos since like 2007 with 284 00:09:37,509 --> 00:09:35,920 two two programs asap advanced aerospace 285 00:09:38,150 --> 00:09:37,519 weapon systems application program and 286 00:09:39,990 --> 00:09:38,160 a-tip 287 00:09:41,190 --> 00:09:40,000 advanced aerospace threat identification 288 00:09:44,310 --> 00:09:41,200 program so 289 00:09:46,550 --> 00:09:44,320 they stopped for quite a while uh well 290 00:09:47,590 --> 00:09:46,560 well i guess that we know of that we 291 00:09:49,910 --> 00:09:47,600 know of yes 292 00:09:51,190 --> 00:09:49,920 but why would they stop i mean if people 293 00:09:53,110 --> 00:09:51,200 are still going to report 294 00:09:54,310 --> 00:09:53,120 sightings of unidentified like aircraft 295 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:54,320 and why not it's not like every single 296 00:09:57,509 --> 00:09:56,080 aircraft in the sky can be identified or 297 00:09:58,310 --> 00:09:57,519 every single light in the distance is 298 00:10:01,110 --> 00:09:58,320 going to be 299 00:10:01,509 --> 00:10:01,120 unidentified it seems like the problem 300 00:10:03,110 --> 00:10:01,519 of 301 00:10:04,790 --> 00:10:03,120 identifying things that are a bit too 302 00:10:07,829 --> 00:10:04,800 far away is 303 00:10:08,949 --> 00:10:07,839 is a an evergreen problem because 304 00:10:09,430 --> 00:10:08,959 there's always going to be something 305 00:10:11,030 --> 00:10:09,440 that's 306 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:11,040 a little bit further than your sensors 307 00:10:15,910 --> 00:10:12,560 can detect so that your 308 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:15,920 situational awareness can comprehend uh 309 00:10:19,670 --> 00:10:17,360 that you're always trying to improve 310 00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:19,680 upon 311 00:10:23,509 --> 00:10:22,240 that uh i guess that's kind of almost in 312 00:10:24,949 --> 00:10:23,519 a way a different question if there's 313 00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:24,959 things that's too far away are the 314 00:10:28,550 --> 00:10:25,920 things that are 315 00:10:29,670 --> 00:10:28,560 close enough that are unidentified that 316 00:10:31,910 --> 00:10:29,680 we're dealing with 317 00:10:33,750 --> 00:10:31,920 i think so yeah i think so you know 318 00:10:34,870 --> 00:10:33,760 elozondo when he was on the peacock 319 00:10:36,389 --> 00:10:34,880 program i think 320 00:10:37,910 --> 00:10:36,399 i don't remember the person he was 321 00:10:38,389 --> 00:10:37,920 talking to but he said that i think he 322 00:10:39,990 --> 00:10:38,399 said 323 00:10:42,069 --> 00:10:40,000 that they've gotten close as close to 324 00:10:42,470 --> 00:10:42,079 like 90 feet maybe it was the figure he 325 00:10:44,389 --> 00:10:42,480 used 326 00:10:45,990 --> 00:10:44,399 yeah i think yeah something around that 327 00:10:47,829 --> 00:10:46,000 less than 100 feet anyway which is very 328 00:10:49,430 --> 00:10:47,839 close it's like and he's also ready he's 329 00:10:51,829 --> 00:10:49,440 also said that there have been 330 00:10:52,790 --> 00:10:51,839 um other incidents we haven't heard 331 00:10:54,310 --> 00:10:52,800 about 332 00:10:55,670 --> 00:10:54,320 that some of them even more compelling 333 00:10:56,069 --> 00:10:55,680 than the ones we know about and that's 334 00:10:59,350 --> 00:10:56,079 been 335 00:11:01,829 --> 00:10:59,360 said there's there's more 336 00:11:03,110 --> 00:11:01,839 incidents we haven't uh learned yeah and 337 00:11:06,150 --> 00:11:03,120 he said that 338 00:11:07,190 --> 00:11:06,160 um they they they've even acquired 339 00:11:09,670 --> 00:11:07,200 satellite imagery 340 00:11:11,190 --> 00:11:09,680 so you know if that's true and then they 341 00:11:12,069 --> 00:11:11,200 have some pretty good data backing this 342 00:11:14,389 --> 00:11:12,079 up 343 00:11:15,910 --> 00:11:14,399 i think that's a curious statement that 344 00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:15,920 he made about the satellite image 345 00:11:20,310 --> 00:11:18,000 he didn't say satellite imagery i think 346 00:11:22,389 --> 00:11:20,320 he just said uh satellites 347 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:22,399 and i think historically there was some 348 00:11:27,350 --> 00:11:24,880 talk of them being detected by 349 00:11:28,870 --> 00:11:27,360 uh kind of infrared sensing satellites 350 00:11:30,870 --> 00:11:28,880 as heat sources 351 00:11:32,710 --> 00:11:30,880 and there was one quote like someone 352 00:11:33,509 --> 00:11:32,720 said it was five times the heat source 353 00:11:36,550 --> 00:11:33,519 of a 354 00:11:38,310 --> 00:11:36,560 aircraft carrier uh i can't remember who 355 00:11:41,509 --> 00:11:38,320 that was he might have been like 356 00:11:43,829 --> 00:11:41,519 some kind of put off related type person 357 00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:43,839 uh but but yeah like historically these 358 00:11:46,870 --> 00:11:44,560 things 359 00:11:48,150 --> 00:11:46,880 have have happened and you know there's 360 00:11:50,310 --> 00:11:48,160 the thing about the 361 00:11:52,230 --> 00:11:50,320 the nuclear bases where the nuclear 362 00:11:54,069 --> 00:11:52,240 missiles are and you have reports that 363 00:11:55,750 --> 00:11:54,079 and there's the supposed correlation 364 00:11:58,310 --> 00:11:55,760 between sightings and 365 00:11:58,949 --> 00:11:58,320 nuclear bases and you know atip has a 366 00:12:00,870 --> 00:11:58,959 slide 367 00:12:03,030 --> 00:12:00,880 that shows this correlation that they've 368 00:12:06,069 --> 00:12:03,040 used in presentations 369 00:12:08,870 --> 00:12:06,079 is that even a real correlation it's uh 370 00:12:10,710 --> 00:12:08,880 if you pick some ufo sightings that are 371 00:12:11,990 --> 00:12:10,720 next to bases and you pick bases and you 372 00:12:13,350 --> 00:12:12,000 put them on a map then it looks like 373 00:12:15,030 --> 00:12:13,360 there's a correlation but then 374 00:12:16,550 --> 00:12:15,040 if you take all the ufo sightings in the 375 00:12:19,269 --> 00:12:16,560 world they're just everywhere 376 00:12:19,670 --> 00:12:19,279 and some of those are bound to be where 377 00:12:22,310 --> 00:12:19,680 the 378 00:12:22,870 --> 00:12:22,320 nuclear bases are i tell you what i'll 379 00:12:27,910 --> 00:12:22,880 tell you what 380 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:27,920 let's just bet 20 dollars because i can 381 00:12:33,430 --> 00:12:29,200 lose 20 okay 382 00:12:37,190 --> 00:12:35,829 i i am not fully confident that the 180 383 00:12:42,310 --> 00:12:37,200 day report is going to 384 00:12:45,670 --> 00:12:42,320 to say something like we have we have 385 00:12:47,110 --> 00:12:45,680 we have let me think how would i wear 386 00:12:50,310 --> 00:12:47,120 this we have 387 00:12:53,430 --> 00:12:50,320 recorded and observed 388 00:12:55,509 --> 00:12:53,440 through sensor data collecting 389 00:12:58,310 --> 00:12:55,519 mechanisms that there are 390 00:12:59,190 --> 00:12:58,320 that there are ufos behaving in ways in 391 00:13:03,030 --> 00:12:59,200 which 392 00:13:04,870 --> 00:13:03,040 are not familiar to us and 393 00:13:06,949 --> 00:13:04,880 surpass anything in the american 394 00:13:07,590 --> 00:13:06,959 inventory i'll go ahead and bet you 395 00:13:09,350 --> 00:13:07,600 twenty dollars 396 00:13:11,190 --> 00:13:09,360 something like that will be in the 188 397 00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:11,200 port i'm not sure it will be 398 00:13:14,629 --> 00:13:13,120 but you know what i'll just do it for 399 00:13:16,790 --> 00:13:14,639 fun 400 00:13:17,670 --> 00:13:16,800 all right but like what if it's what if 401 00:13:20,470 --> 00:13:17,680 it's just like a 402 00:13:22,069 --> 00:13:20,480 chinese drone i mean is that does that 403 00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:22,079 count i mean that sounds like a rather 404 00:13:25,190 --> 00:13:23,360 boring explanation like 405 00:13:26,629 --> 00:13:25,200 chinese if they if they believe it's a 406 00:13:28,069 --> 00:13:26,639 chinese no it doesn't count so it would 407 00:13:29,269 --> 00:13:28,079 have to come under the umbrella of 408 00:13:33,430 --> 00:13:29,279 unknown 409 00:13:36,470 --> 00:13:33,440 are beyond 410 00:13:38,870 --> 00:13:36,480 what what we are familiar with beyond uh 411 00:13:40,230 --> 00:13:38,880 uh yeah what the united states even is 412 00:13:41,829 --> 00:13:40,240 capable of that that 413 00:13:43,269 --> 00:13:41,839 kind of language would be in there i'll 414 00:13:45,110 --> 00:13:43,279 go ahead and bet you twenty dollars 415 00:13:47,269 --> 00:13:45,120 so you think that that's okay you need 416 00:13:49,990 --> 00:13:47,279 money for your website 417 00:13:51,509 --> 00:13:50,000 i do i do need money it costs costs a 418 00:13:55,030 --> 00:13:51,519 bit hosting it 419 00:13:56,629 --> 00:13:55,040 does but not that much it's like 50 420 00:14:00,310 --> 00:13:56,639 bucks a month 421 00:14:02,310 --> 00:14:00,320 uh so 422 00:14:05,350 --> 00:14:02,320 you think you can you're saying that in 423 00:14:07,350 --> 00:14:05,360 the report they will say that there is 424 00:14:09,750 --> 00:14:07,360 evidence of something that the u.s 425 00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:09,760 cannot do 426 00:14:12,389 --> 00:14:11,440 i i'm willing to i'm willing to bet you 427 00:14:14,069 --> 00:14:12,399 on that i don't know if they will say 428 00:14:16,069 --> 00:14:14,079 that and i i have a little reluctancy 429 00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:16,079 but i'm i'm a fun guy 430 00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:19,040 i'll put a little 20 20 right yeah yeah 431 00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:20,079 yeah 432 00:14:22,790 --> 00:14:21,040 all right and here's the here's the 433 00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:22,800 thing if they don't if they don't do 434 00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:25,040 that then john ratcliffe will 435 00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:27,040 maybe was a little misleading because he 436 00:14:30,629 --> 00:14:29,279 said that uh they're going to class 437 00:14:31,750 --> 00:14:30,639 he's going to talk he's going to be able 438 00:14:33,030 --> 00:14:31,760 to talk a little bit more about this 439 00:14:35,990 --> 00:14:33,040 when they declassify 440 00:14:36,790 --> 00:14:36,000 those are his words so hopefully he's 441 00:14:38,949 --> 00:14:36,800 accurate in that 442 00:14:40,629 --> 00:14:38,959 in that regard i hate to quibble over 443 00:14:41,990 --> 00:14:40,639 details here but i think the details are 444 00:14:45,430 --> 00:14:42,000 somewhat important like 445 00:14:49,269 --> 00:14:45,440 say uh what if they have radar 446 00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:49,279 tracks that show something moving at 447 00:14:52,949 --> 00:14:52,240 20 000 miles an hour which is obviously 448 00:14:55,910 --> 00:14:52,959 beyond 449 00:14:57,509 --> 00:14:55,920 conventional technology is that actually 450 00:14:58,069 --> 00:14:57,519 evidence of something moving at 20 000 451 00:14:59,509 --> 00:14:58,079 miles an hour 452 00:15:01,189 --> 00:14:59,519 or is it evidence that the radar isn't 453 00:15:04,150 --> 00:15:01,199 working properly 454 00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:04,160 so so they'll so they'll say that that 455 00:15:07,269 --> 00:15:05,199 that's their 456 00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:07,279 assessment based upon the sensor data 457 00:15:09,829 --> 00:15:08,560 they collected i mean that's all 458 00:15:12,550 --> 00:15:09,839 that's all you could ever expect of them 459 00:15:14,550 --> 00:15:12,560 i mean think about it yeah 460 00:15:16,230 --> 00:15:14,560 there could be 10 glitches going on at 461 00:15:17,990 --> 00:15:16,240 the same time but the us government has 462 00:15:19,509 --> 00:15:18,000 to make the determination 463 00:15:21,509 --> 00:15:19,519 do they believe this is a glitch or do 464 00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:21,519 they believe that these are accurate 465 00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:22,000 readings 466 00:15:26,069 --> 00:15:25,519 so sorry i think i think that then yeah 467 00:15:28,069 --> 00:15:26,079 we 468 00:15:30,629 --> 00:15:28,079 would have to agree that they would have 469 00:15:32,470 --> 00:15:30,639 to clarify that they think it's not a 470 00:15:32,790 --> 00:15:32,480 glitch essentially in a situation like 471 00:15:38,949 --> 00:15:32,800 that 472 00:15:41,030 --> 00:15:38,959 if they if they don't say they think 473 00:15:42,310 --> 00:15:41,040 it's a glitch is it can can we infer 474 00:15:45,670 --> 00:15:42,320 that if they don't believe it's a glitch 475 00:15:49,430 --> 00:15:47,910 we don't believe it's a glitch i think 476 00:15:52,150 --> 00:15:49,440 we'll have to kind of uh 477 00:15:52,870 --> 00:15:52,160 have a gentleman's agreement there to 478 00:15:54,790 --> 00:15:52,880 say 479 00:15:56,150 --> 00:15:54,800 you know whether it's clear or not at 480 00:15:58,629 --> 00:15:56,160 the time 481 00:15:59,590 --> 00:15:58,639 as to whether they think it's you know i 482 00:16:02,629 --> 00:15:59,600 got this is an exciting 483 00:16:04,150 --> 00:16:02,639 time for you for a ufo guy like me so 484 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:04,160 putting a little money on you know you 485 00:16:06,790 --> 00:16:05,680 watch your favorite football game maybe 486 00:16:07,910 --> 00:16:06,800 it makes it a little bit more exciting 487 00:16:09,189 --> 00:16:07,920 you put twenty dollars on it you know 488 00:16:11,110 --> 00:16:09,199 you might lose but like 489 00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:11,120 you get your juices flowing so i want my 490 00:16:14,790 --> 00:16:12,880 juices to get flowing so 491 00:16:17,350 --> 00:16:14,800 i'm gonna put twenty dollars on it well 492 00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:17,360 i'm all in favor of your juices flowing 493 00:16:21,269 --> 00:16:18,800 and i've got i've got your 20 bucks 494 00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:21,279 right here awesome 495 00:16:24,790 --> 00:16:23,279 and i saw let's place in this drawer you 496 00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:24,800 mind if i do you mind if i post this on 497 00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:25,920 my youtube channel 498 00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:28,720 yeah go ahead awesome awesome post it 499 00:16:32,629 --> 00:16:30,000 online too and we'll uh 500 00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:32,639 perfect awesome love it get it out there 501 00:16:36,230 --> 00:16:33,920 so we have a bet 502 00:16:37,829 --> 00:16:36,240 that uh and i want to make it clear to 503 00:16:39,670 --> 00:16:37,839 to mick west's audience like 504 00:16:41,110 --> 00:16:39,680 i think mcquest does good work i think 505 00:16:41,910 --> 00:16:41,120 he's he's made some interesting 506 00:16:45,110 --> 00:16:41,920 critiques of the go 507 00:16:46,550 --> 00:16:45,120 fast video so we we are not 508 00:16:48,150 --> 00:16:46,560 like we we don't see we're not 509 00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:48,160 antagonistic toward each other i just 510 00:16:50,069 --> 00:16:49,440 want to put that out there just so no 511 00:16:53,189 --> 00:16:50,079 one can i'm not 512 00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:53,199 talking to anybody except for perhaps um 513 00:16:57,189 --> 00:16:56,480 jeremy corbell okay even then he's a 514 00:16:58,949 --> 00:16:57,199 lovely guy 515 00:17:00,389 --> 00:16:58,959 you can't help but like him i know you 516 00:17:01,350 --> 00:17:00,399 guys have gotten some feuds so i 517 00:17:03,829 --> 00:17:01,360 understand 518 00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:03,839 we just have some disagreements on uh a 519 00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:07,120 few issues of detail and whatnot but 520 00:17:12,789 --> 00:17:09,360 no big deal we're all friends we're all 521 00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:15,669 all right ryan uh okay so let's uh i 522 00:17:19,029 --> 00:17:16,880 think i think we have it 523 00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:19,039 nailed down more or less and we have uh 524 00:17:22,949 --> 00:17:20,799 your gentleman's agreement 525 00:17:24,470 --> 00:17:22,959 afterwards change something a little bit 526 00:17:27,669 --> 00:17:24,480 i'm cool with it as long as it 527 00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:27,679 hovers around this place because i just 528 00:17:30,070 --> 00:17:28,480 want to 529 00:17:32,230 --> 00:17:30,080 basically i'm making this more fun for 530 00:17:33,430 --> 00:17:32,240 me and if if 20 531 00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:33,440 is the cost of admission to make this 532 00:17:36,230 --> 00:17:35,200 more fun to me than it's fun for me then 533 00:17:37,350 --> 00:17:36,240 so be it 534 00:17:39,350 --> 00:17:37,360 i mean this is what you want because you 535 00:17:42,630 --> 00:17:39,360 want evidence of something 536 00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:42,640 that's not in and and am i right that 537 00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:44,720 you'd be happy to lose this bet 538 00:17:47,909 --> 00:17:46,240 sure it'd be very interesting if they 539 00:17:49,909 --> 00:17:47,919 had that evidence i mean 540 00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:49,919 lose the bet and maybe maybe the 541 00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:51,440 government's telling us that we're we 542 00:17:54,390 --> 00:17:52,960 might not be alone that's that seems 543 00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:54,400 like a good deal 544 00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:56,240 well that would be the uh the the ideal 545 00:18:01,830 --> 00:17:58,240 outcome i guess so certainly 546 00:18:03,669 --> 00:18:01,840 very very interesting